Ensuring Election Integrity: How You Can Participate and Assist

As concerns about election security grow, a coalition of citizens, legal experts, and concerned individuals is taking action to ensure that every vote is counted fairly and securely. The focus of this effort is to eliminate vulnerabilities in the current voting system, particularly those related to the potential for voting machines to be connected to the internet, making them susceptible to hacking and manipulation.

Why This Matters

The integrity of our elections is the cornerstone of democracy. If the voting process is compromised, the consequences can be dire, leading to instability, mistrust, and potentially even violence. It is essential that we restore and maintain faith in our electoral systems, ensuring that every vote is counted accurately and that the process is transparent and secure.

The Issue at Hand

Many voting machines across the country have been found to be connected to the internet or capable of being networked, which opens the door for potential hacking. Even if a machine is not currently connected, its capability to be networked poses a significant security risk. This issue has been highlighted by experts in the field of cybersecurity, who warn that these vulnerabilities could be exploited by malicious actors, both domestic and foreign.

In response, a coalition is forming to challenge the use of these machines in court, advocating for a return to paper ballots and hand counting, which are not subject to the same cybersecurity risks.

How You Can Help

1. Provide Affidavits

If you are a county executive, election official, or anyone with direct knowledge of how voting machines are handled in your area, your testimony is invaluable. The coalition is gathering affidavits from individuals who can confirm whether voting machines in their jurisdiction are connected to the internet or have the capability to be networked. These affidavits will be crucial in building a legal case to challenge the use of these machines.

What to Do:

• Step 1: Review your knowledge of the voting systems in your jurisdiction.
• Step 2: Prepare to provide a sworn statement about whether the machines are connected to the internet or capable of being networked.
• Step 3: Sign the affidavit in front of a notary to ensure it is legally binding.
• Step 4: Email the affidavit to voterintegrity@formerfedsgroup.org or electionintegrity@formerfedsgroup.org.

2. Volunteer as a Plaintiff

The coalition is seeking plaintiffs for the upcoming legal case. As a voter or election official, you may have standing to challenge the use of these insecure voting machines in court. Your participation could be pivotal in ensuring that this issue is heard at the highest levels.

What to Do:

• Step 1: Express your interest in becoming a plaintiff by contacting the coalition at voterintegrity@formerfedsgroup.org or electionintegrity@formerfedsgroup.org.
• Step 2: Provide any relevant details about your experience or concerns regarding the election process in your area.

3. Engage with Local Election Officials

Even if you are not an election official yourself, you can still make a difference by reaching out to your local election officials. Ask them about the security measures in place for voting machines and whether these machines are connected to the internet or have networking capabilities.

What to Do:

• Step 1: Identify the election officials in your area, particularly those responsible for managing voting machines.
• Step 2: Contact them to inquire about the security protocols in place and whether their machines are capable of being networked.
• Step 3: Encourage them to participate in this effort by providing an affidavit if they share concerns about the security of the voting machines.

4. Spread the Word

Awareness is key to this effort. By spreading the word about the vulnerabilities in our voting systems and the need for secure, paper-based voting methods, you can help build momentum for this cause.

What to Do:

• Step 1: Share this information with your friends, family, and community.
• Step 2: Use social media, community meetings, and other platforms to discuss the importance of election integrity and the steps being taken to protect it.

5. Advocate for Paper Ballots and Hand Counting

The coalition is advocating for a shift to paper ballots and hand counting, which eliminate the risks associated with electronic voting machines. This method, while more labor-intensive, is far more secure and transparent.

What to Do:

• Step 1: Support local and national efforts to implement paper ballots and hand counting.
• Step 2: Participate in public discussions and forums advocating for these changes.
• Step 3: Vote in favor of initiatives and candidates who support secure, paper-based voting systems.

Moving Forward

This is a critical moment for our democracy. By participating in these efforts, you can help ensure that our elections remain free, fair, and secure. The time to act is now—before it’s too late.

For more information or to get involved, please contact voterintegrity@formerfedsgroup.org or electionintegrity@formerfedsgroup.org. Together, we can protect the integrity of our elections and ensure that every vote counts.

Full Transcript:

(The transcript is generated by AI and is subject to error.)

Speaker 1:

So the first thing I wanna say is as a 501c3, why is voter integrity an issue as far as we’re concerned, and how do we comply with our obligations as a 501c3? We don’t advocate for any particular candidate. In the past, we have taken certain, our interpretation certain candidates’ positions are around issues that we hold near and dear. In terms of, why I think that it merits our emergency consideration is because we have multiple opinion leaders, including people with as much integrity as, Elon Musk, looking at the risk situation as as it’s confronting us as a nation and concluding that we’re on an inexorable path towards civil war. And the thing that really alarmed me, perhaps a week ago, was I saw a interview with president Biden, and he was asked if he could guarantee, you know, a violence free election or, you know, I’m paraphrasing.

And he said something along the lines of, you know, not if, vice president Harris’ opponent should win. So we’re really in a perilous time right now when you have that many people who who are, telegraphing to everybody that, you know, the potential of instability and violence is in our future. That also telegraphs that they don’t have faith in our systems and our institutions. And as you’ve heard me say ad nauseam, I’m a believer in our institutions. I’m an institutional loyalist.

I don’t wanna, destroy our institutions, which I’m sure, you know, 1960 communist, 1960s communist would love. They’ve been articulating it. That is a desired goal from the 9 you know, least as early as the 19 sixties. I wanna insist that our institutions get rehabilitated and restored and reformed. So, I wanna make you know, I think we wanna make darn sure that the election on election day is conducted properly, that it measures all the votes that it should.

It rejects the votes that it shouldn’t and that everybody in the at you know, after it’s done, can have faith in the result. And if we can if we can do that, then we can avoid instability and worse. So that’s why it’s a 501c3. Voting is a a crucial right, that’s enshrined in our constitution. And that’s why, we kind of, in the last month and a half, have jumped in in, the Supreme Court of Michigan, and we also filed a complaint with the FEC, regarding, vice president Harris’ campaign getting direct access to, the $90,000,000 or so that was granted it by the Biden campaign.

These are all things that undermine our systems, undermine our institutions, and, you know, we thought it was, like, fire drill worthy. And this one came up, I guess it was Wednesday of last week. You know, there’s very few people in this space anymore. Somebody once commented to me and said that they thought that there were a dozen attorneys that are in this space. And I said, what?

Who are the dozen attorneys? And the guy said, oh, well, globally. And I said, okay. Globally. You know?

Okay. Maybe there’s a dozen. Alright. That’s great. So, let’s see.

Where are we now? We’re at 80. Okay. That’s great. It’s 8:12.

Patrick, what do you think? You’re you’re the one with the schedule that, I’m most concerned about because I know you’re juggling a lot of things at the DNC convention. Do you wanna do you wanna start now, or do you do you wanna start what you originally scheduled for at 8:30? It’s up to you, sir.

Speaker 2:

Well, considering I’ve been up since 4 o’clock this morning on the way out here, the earlier I can, you know, get our time, the better.

Speaker 1:

Why don’t we start right now? By the way, I’ll just I’m gonna ask you to introduce yourself, Patrick, but this is a true patriot who really has he’s put himself at tremendous risk. He sacrificed like all of us. We’ve all made sacrifices. He’s right there with us.

He’s he’s courageous. He’s a brilliant, brilliant mind, a great leader, and he’s Mike Lindell’s, you know, right hand man. Patrick Colbeck, let’s hand it off to you.

Speaker 2:

Oh, thanks, Brad. Well, yeah, just a little bit of background on relationship with Mike. I mean, I, I I actually didn’t know Mike at all until after the 2020 election, and I started talking about what I saw out at the TCS Center in Detroit as a certified poll challenger, where I saw I’m a certified Microsoft small specialist. So I’m a bit of an IT geek. And I’m also a former state senator who served on election and government reform.

So I understand how elections are supposed to be run. I understand the technology, and it’s kind of a rare blend, if you will. And so I went out in the wake of the election and started talking about what I observed, which mainly was that the machines were connected to the Internet. All these election officials were telling me that it wasn’t. And I said, there’s a real easy way for you to prove me wrong.

Just move your mouse cursor over the bottom right hand corner on that little Internet connectivity icon. And when it says connected to Internet, you owe me an apology. And, they didn’t wanna do any of that. And, and they refused to do that. And so I’m I’m not a big fan of people lying to me.

So, for 3 years after that point in time, I was investigating election fraud on my own. Mike had me in a couple of his documentaries. But last October, he hired me on to help him out full time. And, and it’s just an example how where god guides he provides because, I mean, we didn’t know where we’re getting our money from for the 1st 3 years. We were just focused on investigating this fraud, not letting these guys get away with it.

And I called it living in manna mode, and God took care of us. And then Mike Mike’s been helping us out ever since. So it’s been a total blessing. So I, I wrote a book on what happened in 2020 called The 2020 Coup, What Happened, What We Can Do. And one of the topics that I got to tell you, Brad, when JB called me up the other night and said that you guys were interested in delving into the Albert sensors and, what was going on at the Center For Internet Security, I practically went through the lept through the roof with joy because I, a couple years ago, I you know, ever since I served as a poll challenger, I was going, I, I need to find out where their center of gravity is.

Where are they? If you’re going to control a national election, like a presidential election, you need to have essentially a central control center. My background is management consulting. I worked with the Department of Defense for part of my career as well. Worked in some pretty, high end, you know, high-tech projects like space station and a few other things.

And I realized that all this challenge on all this is managing something of that scale, realizing that you needed a center, you needed some sort of a war room to go off and manage this. And when I started, when I found out that these Albert sensors were installed in state and county governments in all 50 states, and they routed all that information up to a centralized data center with one organization that’s a nongovernment organization not subject to FOIA requests in control and having access to all that information, I go, you know what? I think this is worth investigating, guys. I think this might be the evil lair that I’ve been looking for since the beginning. When you start looking at the management team on it, it gets you a little nervous, frankly.

It’s all the same cast of character, the same, DNA that you found with the Russian, you know, a Hunter Biden laptop is Russian disinformation. But here is the capper. Not only did through these Albert sensors, and through their deployment through all these states and and low and county governments have access to all of our election night, sensitive election night record, which include everything from voter registration data to poll book data to tabulator data to election night reporting data. They had all that information before anybody else had it because they essentially had this trusted man in the middle called Malvern Center sipping that sipping that data stream before anybody else had it. This same organization that had access to those sensitive election records was also the organization at the center of a report put out by the Weaponization of Government Committee in U.

S. Congress on an organization called the Election Integrity Partnership. And the Election Integrity Partnership was a center of gravity for the federal government censorship of Americans on the topic of election fraud. And so the same organization runs what they call the incident portal for the Election Integrity Partnership. That’s whenever somebody like me says that the machines are connected to the internet, they flag it as an incident and come up with all the talking points for big media and big tech to make sure that I can’t get that point of view out to the American people.

So when you couple the 2 of those together, it really put a bee in my bonnet to find out exactly what was going on inside of this Center For Internet Security, which, by the way, is contracted with the federal government, CISA, so the Cybersecurity Infrastructure Security Agency. You know, the same guys that said 2020 was the most secure election in American history. Those are the guys. So for me, I’m really excited when Brad and JB called and said we wanna dig into the Albert Center because I’ve been bumping my good old Polish noggin up against the wall for quite some time, trying to figure out how to crack this nut going up to congress. I provided subpoenas that I wanted to get moved through the weaponization.

I got nowhere on it. And, I’m so I’m I’m looking for, you know, all these doors are closed. I’m looking for some windows to open to help us go off and expose what’s really happening here. And by the way, even if these guys aren’t the evil lair, what they’ve done, in effect, is concentrate the flow of information into one single point of access that, if they left the keys under the mat or somebody was able to walk through the front door of that organization, maybe with an APT team, out in China or Iran or somebody else, they’d only have one place to go for shopping to get all access to all of our election data before anybody else did. So for me, it’s a big concern.

And, I’m just excited that, we got some folks talking about it.

Speaker 1:

Thank thank you, Patrick. And I’m wondering if we have, JB on yet. JB, any chance you’re on? Did you make it on yet?

Speaker 3:

Yes. I’m on.

Speaker 2:

Wonderful. Hey, JB. One quick thing. I just wanna put put a finer point on what I just did. The way to summarize everything I just talked about is that you know you’re being lied to when the federal government contracts with an organization called the Center For Internet Security to secure electronic voting systems that they tell us are not connected to the Internet.

I’m just gonna leave that right there because it kinda speaks for itself. Go ahead, JB. Sorry about that.

Speaker 3:

You certainly would think that does speak for itself. You’d think a lot of these things speak for themselves. But, no. I didn’t catch your whole your whole, dissertation there. Patrick.

I apologize for being late getting in there.

Speaker 2:

Well, you’ve caught it before. Don’t worry. You got it.

Speaker 1:

We started a little bit early. Patrick’s had a long day and, we gotta keep him strong for spending the week in enemy territory or I say opponent territory

Speaker 3:

there you go.

Speaker 2:

I’m sure Republican territory

Speaker 1:

right JB. Can you can you give us a brief of your a lay of the land here, how you got involved in this fight? Give us the benefit of of looking at this through the glasses that you wear and why this is so crucially important at this stage?

Speaker 3:

Alright. Well, I’ve been at this for a very long time to North American Law Center and other organizations dating back a lot of years. I think probably I got engaged really young in life, actually, personally. Most people don’t know that for a little while in my early twenties, I found myself being hired. Hired gun to go out and kill bills, basically, at the state level first and then at the federal level.

And it was very easy actually to kill bills, and I didn’t do it for very long before I realized nobody should be able to do what I was doing, especially the way I was doing it. I had learned it from an older gentleman that had been doing that his whole life. So that was my first introduction into politics, not working the way politics are allegedly supposed to work. And that was in my early twenties, which is now more than 40 years ago. So that started me on a trek that lasted the rest of my life up till now, trying to figure out what’s wrong and how it’s wrong and why it’s wrong and what we can do about it so that this country actually is ultimately governed by the people of the country.

And when you’re speaking of it’s almost laughable at this point to hear democrats talk about saving democracy when they’re the most undemocratic group in the country at the moment to the degree that they don’t even mind Democrat voters don’t really even seem to mind that they’ve been handed a presidential vice presidential candidate that none of them ever voted for. That’s not exactly a democratic format for how leaders are elected in any democratic society. But, also, we got involved early on ahead of the 2020 election. We could see what was coming early in 2020 because of COVID. And, you know, our background here, and when I say our, it’s not just myself.

It’s a lot of other people that helped me form this organization and operate the organization. They have varied backgrounds as far as investigative works and the ability to unravel rat’s nest and figure out what’s actually going on and who’s responsible for it. And we got looking into this actually all the way back in 2004 and then in 2008 when, essentially, the democratic nomination was hijacked by the Obama group, knocking Hillary Clinton off, in the primaries and then putting the guy in the office that really had nothing on his resume. And a lot of what was on what little was on his resume was and often proven to not be true. So as far as we’re concerned from our investigations that date back years, this country was essentially stolen from the people at the very latest in 2,008, and different forms of fraud, election fraud has been employed in order to do that.

Now fast forward through 2020, we knew 2020 was likely to be stolen, and it was. We had some idea of how it would be stolen, and it was, but we didn’t have all the pieces of the puzzle yet in 2020. And the difference between right now and 2020 is nobody really had all the pieces of the puzzle until after it happened. And once it happened, then the system wouldn’t allow us to really challenge what was in the past. And so what’s different this time is we’re ahead of the elections, and we’re challenging what’s going on before it occurs.

And so we have some opportunities in front of us to do something about it before it actually even happens. Now, fortunately, through a lot of work of Patrick’s and the Lindell group and ourselves and your you guys, at Farmer Feds Group and numerous other groups that have worked on all this for the last 4 years after 2020, we’re able to see things that we couldn’t see before. We’re able to connect dots that we were not previously able to connect. And where we are now is there’s a lot of, talk and has been a lot of talk about Russian hacking our elections or China hacking our elections, all these different things. What we believe to be true at this point is that it’s our own federal government that’s actually hacking the elections.

And we believe they’re doing it by connecting voting machines county by county to the Internet. In most states, that’s illegal all by itself to have them connected. In some states, it’s not even, legal to have machines that can connect, that are capable of connecting to the Internet, such as Kansas. So they’re violating state and federal laws to do what they’re doing in the name of cybersecurity. But the issue here at hand is, I think I heard Patrick mention this, you know, if we machines are not connected to the Internet, then they’re not vulnerable to cyber attack.

So first, I re I’ve always referred to something like this as a hurt and rescue mission. First, we go come in and we hurt you, and then we show up to rescue you. The government is great at that. They created the problem by getting these machines connected to the Internet, and then they come in and say, we’re from the government. We’re here to help.

We’ll give you this free hardware and software to provide cybersecurity for the machines because they’re connected to the Internet and they’re vulnerable to cyber hacks. So we believe at this point from our investigative works that it is now all the way down at the county level where the machines are being connected to the Internet, where a particular piece of hardware with software is attached called the Albert sensor, which comes from a 501c3groupcalledcis. I’ll just use the acronyms for right now, which is establishes a 501c3 do gooder type of organization on the surface, but it’s actually formed and funded by the federal government through CISA, which is a sub of DHS, Department of Homeland Security. And when we kept following the trail of the money and the technology that developed the Albert Sensors, it tracked all the way back from this county level through CIS up to CISA from c I s CISA into the Department of Homeland Security, from Department of Homeland Security into the DOD. And then if we follow the trail all the way at the end, it seems that this brainchild of how to manipulate elections in United States from within the United States was actually a brainchild of the Brennan Center, which is a a separate private entity also.

But, you know, one of the things I wish Donald Trump had done when he was in office was strip all of these prior Obama administration officials of their security clearances. That wasn’t done, and so they’re still operating today as if they still were in the office, best we can tell. So I don’t know if that’s exactly where you want me to to cover that, Brad. That’s kind of the long version of how we got here, but we have a philosophy and we’ve proven it to be accurate, you know, over our years of working on things like that. And that is the more complicated or complex a problem in is the more simple the solution must be.

Otherwise, the solution won’t be carried out. In this case, it’s very simple. Simple doesn’t mean easy because they’re gonna fight us every step of the way here, but simple in the sense that paper balloting and hand counts are not subject to cybersecurity threats. It’s just that’s it. So what we need is to disconnect the machine and shut them down across the country, go to paper balloting and hand counting, and poll watching in order to keep that part of it legit.

It’s really the only way to stop what they have in place right now in our opinion. And I would admit to everybody who’s listening. If I go back a year or 2, I probably was not on the side of paper ballot because we have 330,000,000 people in this country. It’s hard to make that work very well with that many people on one hand. But today, I’m convinced it’s the only solution because I’m convinced there’s no way to secure the machine.

Speaker 1:

Patrick, do you have anything to add to what j b just said? You’re on mute, Patrick.

Speaker 2:

No. I I think he’s right over the target and the, conclusion that we have to get rid of the machines. Tell you, I’m a techy. I mean, I’m I’m experienced with information technology. I love information technology.

But unfortunately, with that understanding comes with the realization that there’s no way to secure these systems, particularly with the methods that are being proposed in states like Michigan. And, and it’s the only solution is to get rid of these machines. When I worked on Space Station, I worked on what was called a critical infrastructure component, the life support system. Astronauts tended to think of that as a critical component of the system. And, you know, the elections in the United States have been designated critical infrastructure.

We don’t do anywhere near the testing, the configuration control discipline that you would associate with a, critical system. And so the only thing we can do, because I don’t trust these guys, the ones that are supposed to be, securing the system. I’ve seen it on their work that it is not very professional. And if it was a life support system on space station, you guys were in charge of it. I would not volunteer to be an astronaut even though I would love to go into space.

So these guys are incompetent at best, but, deliberately subverting our elections and treason us at worst.

Speaker 1:

Any chance Sorry. Go ahead.

Speaker 4:

This is Angelo. On on top of just the hardware side, Patrick, JB, I love what you guys are doing. I served as a poll watcher. It’s not just the hard line rj45 connection. So if you wanna make a system networkable, it’s either hard line connected like your phone line, but instead of being a phone line with 4 wires or 2 wires, there’s a r j 45 connection with 8 8 wires.

I was an IT instructor for

Speaker 3:

a long

Speaker 4:

time. So the problem now is these machines are coming Wi Fi enabled as well as just Ethernet enabled, and they’re also Bluetooth enabled. So it’s not just being able to tell a poll watcher, hey. This machine has a network cable connected to it, connected to a router. This machine is also Wi Fi connected to a router.

This machine is also Bluetooth connected to a router or to another system. So poll watchers have no clue of how sophisticated these machines are now becoming. And based on the new upgrades that they’ve been doing, you can have 1, 2, 3 different networks all connecting through some type of VPN that is completely innocuous to some poll watcher trying to figure out that this system is on the Internet. But that’s just hardware. On top of this, like, the issues we deal with with I just lost my my wife to a terrible, terrible disease because of going through, I’m gonna say it, Pfizer’s 4th shot.

And none of this information was available through Google because Google steps all over that data and that information. But if you go to a third party vendor like DuckDuckGo, you find that same data that you were looking for, but it’s unavailable on a mainstream network like Google where you would think you’d be able to get this data, but it’s the same thing now. Instead of just hardware, now you have to worry about operating systems and you have to worry about applications. I’ll leave it at that. And I’m totally available as a resource.

Speaker 2:

Can I point out a a key connection to what you just said is that the censorship they were talking about on election fraud with the Election Integrity Partnership, that same organization was at the heart of another censorship program called the virality project? The virality project was censoring discussion around COVID. What works? What doesn’t work? What’s the efficacy of the vaccines?

So it’s the same cast of evil people here, for lack of better term. Plus, by the way, there’s another way that they sneak in the wireless connections. How many of you guys saw the Antrim County or following the Antrim County, Michigan, lawsuit? Because during that, one of the court exhibits revealed that, they popped open the chassis on a e s and s d s 200 machine and looked on the motherboard and they found a one of the chips that were installed on the motherboard, the 4 g wireless modem. So this isn’t even about a WiFi connection, a Bluetooth connection, or an RJ 45 cat 5 cat 6 connection on it.

This is about them deliberately hiding a wireless modem, cell based modem on the motherboard. And so unless you’re you’re, election official is a computer engineer, electronics genius, they’re gonna have a tough time figuring out, the fact that this machine that they were told by the vendors were was completely air gapped. They they might find themselves a little bit surprised that they’re not air gapped. They’re actually designed to connect to, 12 by 2 system.

Speaker 4:

That’s why I said,

Speaker 2:

you guys

Speaker 1:

were one other thing.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. If you just all there’s a I forget the, model name, but there’s one of the scanners that’s being used that if you just substitute out one driver version with another driver version for that scanner, it turns it into a Wi Fi hotspot. And that’s not a scanner.

Speaker 4:

Yeah. If, that’s what I said. I mean, I I have a tremendous amount of available time now since I I lost my missus, and I’m I’m open to be used just like the song says. Use me up. And that’s such a sad sad situation in state of affairs.

People have no clue how sophisticated this is now becoming.

Speaker 3:

No. That’s exactly right. Thank you for speaking up though and pointing it out, and we’ll take all the help we can get.

Speaker 0:

Now what’s your name?

Speaker 4:

Angelo Horiadis and, you know, my my whole life has changed overnight. I mean, it took 3 years for my wife to pass away. And she suffered terribly, and I got a tremendous amount of energy and a tremendous whole. So I’m I’m I’m highly available. So I just tell you last time.

Guys all have my my access and my information.

Speaker 1:

Angelo, can you can you put your your name and contact information in the in the chat? Yeah. We’re at board. At the end of the call, we’re gonna talk about, a plan going forward that involves a blitz on these county executives and officials to get as many affidavits pulled together as we can. But, I’m I’m I’m kinda jumping the order here.

But stick your information in there. You’re you’re almost like a a, a technical adviser.

Speaker 0:

And Yeah. Anyone if if we’re missing anybody too who we should know because, one of the big problems with lawsuits, especially something like this, is they say, oh, from the outside looking in, you don’t know behind the behind the curtain. They they, you know, the government says something and you have no way of disputing it. So, pinning some of this stuff down is really important.

Speaker 4:

This is something where metrics comes into play. And when you have good metrics, you can collect data and information that can be used, and data does not lie. When you have metrics, just like when you’re trying to track what happened with this injection, this 4th injection from Pfizer, when you have metrics that mean something and they’re meaningful and you can collect that data, now you have something that you can pie chart. You can have something you can graph. You can have something that you can show trends and history, and you have court evidence that is up you know, that will be accepted.

And that’s that’s what you need. You need measurable metrics that mean something. So IP addresses, you can’t you can change them and you can fool people, but you can’t change. And it’s very difficult to change things like a MAC address or a machine address so that you know that that system was connected and transmitting data. And that’s what makes this whole thing just nauseatingly sick.

Speaker 0:

Well and and one thing that I think Mike Lindell was intending, or I think a year ago, is the idea and I don’t know how technically possible this this was, is to go in and and and monitor, at the election polls. I whether they’re whether it’s sending. Now, people aren’t sure if that’s real, if that would work or not, but I think if you just scare people who scare the bad actors that they might be detected wouldn’t hurt.

Speaker 1:

And and let me just interject you real quick because there’s gonna be probably attorneys who are watching this and determining if they wanna enter an appearance Yeah. In whatever this action turns into in the US Supreme Court. And I want everybody to be aware that this is very different because we specifically did not get involved at all on challenging election results. This is all about proactive putting procedures, protections in place to, protect the sanctity and the integrity of the voting system that is pro pro strong institutions. It’s pro rule of law.

It’s pro constitutional protections, and it eliminates problems going forward. The people that are going out and hunting people’s bar licenses, you know, there’s there’s a there’s been a terrible devolution really here where everybody’s involved in zero sum gain, kind of personal ad hominem attacks, you know, the the politics of personal destruction. No good can come of that. I don’t want to engage in that against my opponent, and I expect them not to engage in it on me. If we follow the rules and and and and and we have a fierce contest, there’s a the the the outcomes that come from that are gonna be outcomes that all sides can have some faith in.

That that that happens to strengthen and reinforce our system. As I said before, we’re institutional loyalists. We don’t wanna make the situation worse.

Speaker 3:

Yeah. I’d I’d like to make a comment behind that. And and that is that this is not we are not a partisan operation. What we’re dealing with is a nonpartisan, you know, issue here. And that is simply the ability of this country to continue to govern itself through any democratic process in a legitimate fashion.

That’s what this is about. Democrats should care about it as much as anybody. So should republican, so should independence. There shouldn’t be any Americans who don’t care about this. There are some who don’t care only because there’s some that are willing to cheat in order to what they perceive win.

But at the end of the day, every American is at risk here of losing their freedom, their liberty, their right to justice, true justice. We’ve seen it going on for years now through the j sixers. We’ve seen it going on on the COVID side of of all this. And North America Law Center committed over a year ago to focus all of our attention and resources on legitimate elections and dealing with stopping the COVID protocols going forward and holding people accountable on the back end for what’s been done on that. And so, you know, the people on this call are the people we care most about right now.

And those are the people who’ve been harmed by the protocols and and to prevent future people other people from being harmed by protocols like that. But also to make sure we do everything we can possibly do in a lawful, free, fair, legal process to protect what what the Democrat party is saying is a democracy. They’re not performing their own nominating process as a democracy, and I don’t think they have any intention, honestly. I don’t I’m not saying it’s just Democrats, but the party is directly been involved in eliminating democratic processes in this country on a number of fronts in a number of ways, including accusing j sixers of an insurrection even though the FBI declared there was no insurrection. So we, you know the protocols, like I said, we have a a variety of different backgrounds here, including familiarity with bioweapons.

We knew in January of 2020 it was a bioweapon, but we also knew that COVID 19 was a bioweapon designed to introduce a more deadly and lethal bioweapon, which became the injections. I’m sorry for the anybody’s loss who’s listening on here. You know, we did what we could to get the word out to people. We were able to keep a lot of people away from it, but a lot of people were not able to stay away from it. They just simply didn’t know.

Similar to what was going on with COVID with the news media carrying water, saying rush out there and get your next one and the next one and the next one. These are safe. They’re effective. You know, they do the same thing with the elections where the the machines are secure. The process is secure.

There’s no fraud taking place. Nothing could be further from the truth in either one of those sets of lies.

Speaker 1:

Those are those are great points. And, JB, I don’t know if if Tim’s on here and he wants to chime in or has a thought he wants to share. He doesn’t have to, but he’s welcome to.

Speaker 3:

I believe he’s here. We’ll see if he’ll chime in. Okay. I’m here, Brad. How are you?

Speaker 1:

Hey, Tim. Great to hear your voice.

Speaker 5:

Good to meet everybody. Glad to be here.

Speaker 3:

I’m I’m here to leave.

Speaker 5:

I’m I I figured I would join because I was invited and I wanted to listen. But the bottom line, all is, yeah, I mean, you and and, JB and John know what I’ve been working on. And I will be finishing up for everybody tomorrow as far as original jurisdiction and some of the things that we’ve talked about privately. But, you know, the bottom line as as it pertains to the election and the court system especially under original jurisdiction at the supreme level. Is if the court itself can’t guarantee, a certifiable election, then you can’t have a cert certification of any election.

So there’s there’s there’s basic questions that we can break down that revolve around statutory infractions and and constitutional, problems that that revolve around the first amendment, the 14th amendment, and you go on, which keeps us away from arguing over the same minutiae that the court is throwing out, especially over standing. There’s plenty of standing. And part of what I’ll be finishing for everybody and and will be shared through Brad is where that standing comes from, the history of the Supreme Court, why they only see less than 5% of any cases in front of them now from, the Taft Act. Basically, the judge judiciary act of 1925 because of Taft. Why it was done and how how we get around that under Marbury, which basically the court decided under, in Mulberry and under, original jurisdiction that they had the right to oversee other things rather than just be an appellate process.

So that’s that’s what I’m working on. And, like I said, we can talk about a lot of things. We can talk about what’s been done electronically. We have to. But the bottom line and the bottom argument that we went on is that if the court itself cannot guarantee with what we’re able to present as violations of your basic civil rights and civil liberties.

Though the though the constitution does not dictate you have any right to vote in the first place, it does dictate your rights to preserve the the vote in the voting element. So it it’s self explanatory that the original intent was that you do have the right, otherwise it would never be protected.

Speaker 3:

Well, let’s begin with I would jump in here for a second, Tim, on that note. You know, let’s begin with the fact that this government exists at the pleasure of the people to begin with. This government was created by the people. All political power, all governmental power in this country is derived from the people. So the notion that the people are not in charge, the people don’t have rights, people don’t have standing when their rights are being violated or infringed upon.

It’s just more of the same insanity we’re seeing on everything else right now. But fundamentally, we either figure out the way forward here to prevent what’s happening with these elections, and this is not the first one. 2020 wasn’t the first one. 22 wasn’t the first one. It’s been going on for a while.

And ahead of it going on here, just so you know, these same tactics by our own government have been used in different countries around the world to create the same thing that they’re creating here. So a lot of why we were able to see what we could see and connect dots is they’ve done it elsewhere before they tried to do it here, but they’ve perfected it here at this point. They’re not gonna walk away from this deal without a pipe. I can tell you that. But we are going to take every possible measure and angle amongst us all here to try to solve this problem as peacefully as possible.

It’s not us that has a record. It’s not the MAGA people. It’s not the Republicans. It’s not the conservatives. It’s not the constitutionalists that have been out burning cities across this country for years.

It’s not us that’s in the streets right now outside the DNC convention. It’s the other side, the side that want to control everyone in this country without being elected to even be in office.

Speaker 1:

And unless we get this to me, it’s an unacceptable, risk enterprise management issue. You can imagine if if GE didn’t have a succession plan or a plan where all shareholders could vote every year to determine who the CEO is gonna be or who the board members are gonna be, who are gonna pick the CEO, It would cause

Speaker 6:

total

Speaker 1:

chaos at a at a great American company. Certainly, a great American, or a great nation like the United States that’s had peaceful succession now and, elections every every 4 years for the most part, we can certainly do better. And just that this many smart people have concerns, even if you’re on the I’m talking to people on the other side who are watching this later. Just that so many smart people from so many varied backgrounds are concerned about the, integrity of that result and the process should make you concerned. That should make you wanna join us to make darn sure that this election is done properly.

Speaker 3:

Next Honestly, on that note, Brad, I just wanna reiterate. It shouldn’t matter who you want to vote for. You should want your vote to count.

Speaker 0:

And and this is John Mose and I recall in 2020, the great despair was, you know, people cared about who won, but they also were very despairing about how can we ever have an election again. I mean, that was not something people are just talking about now. That was being talked about at the time.

Speaker 1:

Ed Tarpley, I think I saw you on there somewhere. Do you wanna, jump on here? Ed Ed is leading up the effort to get a, the legal effort to get a team of attorneys pulled together to, put their John Hancock on the filing, so to speak. And then maybe and after you, although everybody in the organization is well aware of who you are, sir, maybe you could give everybody, give a little bit of an intro to, to John, Mosley, who’s our legal, strategist who is who can maybe give us a preview as to what kind of claims it’s likely we we will be likely to see.

Speaker 7:

Yeah. Thank you, Brad. I think, we’ve got, we’ve we’ve got to know that, we we only have a short window of opportunity here. And I think the, the goal should be to file, a petition that will that will the the standing test, so it can be considered. And that will be, coming at this from a unique a unique perspective and and something that, is, indicative of thinking outside the box about this.

Okay? So, so that’s one of the great things about the group that’s come together. Some really smart people, some people that have spent years working on this and focusing on this that, you know, really are down into the details. I mean, they understand the minutiae of how this works. And, so what we have to do, in putting together a a a a legal document that we can file with your support, I mean, we have to make synthesize everything and and and and, you know, make it sharp so get our message across, I mean and the the the relief that we’re seeking, okay, that that it’s, clear to everybody.

You know, here’s the problem. Here’s the issue, and here’s what we’re asking for. This is the relief that we want we want, to be granted. So in any event, so we’ve got some sharp sharp minds working on this. Our friend, John Mosley, has been doing a lot of research, and, and and writing.

And so, I look forward to hearing what John has to say. I don’t know that John’s ready to reveal everything at this point because this is all still very important progress. So don’t, I I don’t think he should do that at this point, but I think he can give you some, some, sign post of where we’re headed and their direction that we think this thing needs to go. A couple things. Let me just say a couple of things.

Number 1, some of you will recall that, the state of Texas filed a lawsuit, filed a, a a a a petition, a writ. They they filed a writ, in in the days following the election prior to, Joe Biden being sworn in as president. And, this, was, you know, a tremendous, brief that was filed along with their, debt with their writ. And as you’ll recall, the vote was, 7 to 2. 7 to 2, basically, in saying that the state of Texas did not have standing to seek the relief that they saw.

Justice, Thomas and justice, Alito were the 2 that dissented. It was clear, I think, anyway, what attorney general Ken Paxton was trying to do from Texas. But, we saw, a really, sad lack of courage on the part of the, of of the majority of the justices to take this on. And so in any event, they did not. And and, of course, you know, we know that we know the story of how it ended up.

But in any event, that just shows you right there that the right the right, suit, the right petition, the right writ, I mean, get that that that puts these issues before the court in the right posture, I think, can gain traction. So, so this is, you know, look. This this is a really brave and daring thing that is, being attempted here, never been attempted before in American history. And, you know, we we we’re on the cutting edge of trying to preserve liberty, ensure the, integrity of these elections, and really save the country, the way I see it. I mean, it’s this is really about saving the country.

I mean, and if you love America, if you love our country and all that it stands for, its traditions, its history, its law, everything that, that we are proud of in in our nation, then, then you have to be you have to be motivated to do something at this point in American history. And that’s what I see this group doing. And there are many others across the country. I mean, we’re only a small group here tonight, but I I but I believe there I believe there are tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of people across the country that would believe would that would agree with what we’re talking about tonight. And, sadly, there aren’t very many lawyers in that group.

I I must, I must say that, my my view of the legal profession has failed us in our country. That’s, the last 4 years, it to my mind is just unbelievable failure. So disappointing. And I’m not talking about all the lawyers. I mean, there there are lots of great lawyers in every state that are fighting for liberty, fighting for justice, fighting for truth.

They are absolutely there. But as a whole, it has been so disappointing that the the the major law firms of this country had been silent on the other side. And, and and, you know, the law schools, they’re silent as a lamb. You hear you’ve heard virtually nothing from the law schools with the few exceptions with the few exceptions, brave exceptions. It’s just unbelievable how cowardly and, and and and and and, fearful, the the the the the the legal profession has been.

It’s just, I I I I look back on this, for the rest of my life and wonder what could have happened if we had had great lawyers and great law firms jump into this fight and fight for liberty, fight for the truth, fight against this fraud. I mean, I was a prosecutor for 6 years. I was a VA for 6 years. I mean, you know, the attorney gen the attorneys general there are 50 of them in in the United States. 50 state attorneys general.

I mean, there were things they could have done. The only one that did anything, as far as I know, was Ken Paxton of Texas. Where were the others? And so in any event, that’s that’s that’s that’s one thing that we that we, that we, can can look at and, and wonder. But but, look, that was in the past.

Now we need to go forward. So I’m gonna turn it over to my friend, John Mosley, who’s a great researcher, a great writer, and, and a great patriot. And, John, why don’t you take it from here and just give the folks a little taste of where you think, our document is headed and, and kinda what the benchmarks are. Thank you so much.

Speaker 0:

Sure. I I think there are 2 parts at some point I’m gonna talk about it. 1 is how everybody could help be cut factually because, well, let me get to that. But but we have a lot of ideas and this is fairly normal to to have different theories that we want to book on, develop them, and then let the best ones flow to the top or try try many of them, and and we’re we’re certainly going to do that. You know, actually Bush v Gore from 2000, very controversial.

A lot of people said, you know, if if you ignore the context of Bush v Gore, let me put it this way, and look at what it actually says. Some of the analysis, it’s very I mean, the facts are completely different, but the illegal analysis is very applicable dealing with due process rights with the 14th amendment with, you know, equal application under the law. It talks very very strongly about how people are treated. Your voters are treated differently. It talks a lot about voter dilution, and, you know, and I think it it may apply even though the Supreme Court kinda said, you know, like this, we’re deciding this case, but we’re never gonna do it again, but, of course, that doesn’t work that way.

So, you know, they’re talking about how the lack of the lack of standards was the big deal in Bush Bush before. Arbitrary standards, was what killed the Florida Supreme Court’s recount thing. Is it that’s great to do that, but you don’t have any standards. So it’s arbitrary and it violates due process and all these other things. And, of course, if if voting machines aren’t reliable, then then, of course, you have that.

You have damage to people whose votes are diluted. You have really no standards because who knows what’s, you know, what’s gonna come out of the machines. But we’re looking at a lot of a lot of different issues. The the you know, they’re they’re and this is what this is kind of bleeding over into what people could help to do. So I’m kinda think how to say it first, but but the thing is is that in some states, the law requires that that the that the, voting machines, not be connected to the Internet.

Maybe some of them by regulation say that. Others maybe in the procurement process. They promised that it was not gonna be connected to the Internet, and so this is fraud and it and it also, you know, creates a federal, you know, but well, I’ll explain a bit violation, but the but the thing is is that, so I just lost a train of thought there from it, but the thing is if one of the main things we’re we’re we’re thinking is that if you can’t trust the machines, then the only thing left is paper ballots, which is what, coming out of the 2,000 Florida election, everybody’s saying, we can’t do this again, we need we need paper ballots. Everybody’s screaming except the people who would make money off of it, saying no more machines, none of this, and here we are with the worst possible scenario of machines. But, so the goal is to say, because there’s no way to work use machines any ever, if not in such a short time, that drives us to the only reliable alternative.

Now, but like I say, when you sue the government or anybody like this, they’ll they’ll love to be in the situation and say, well, we know we know what’s going on inside, you know, inside the circle, but you the plaintiff, you don’t know. How do you know what’s going on? So so we’re just gonna dismiss the lawsuit because you don’t know anything. And that’s where I think people can help. That’s where we’ve got to to work on some of these things.

You heard some of the theories, I think, you know, before we’ve got to sharpen all those. But but the issue is well, this is a lot that’s go goes on. I was I was looking, congress has created, let me get this name. Anyway, they passed they passed the law of the cyber well, like, we we were I think you heard before I got on because I thought it was late 30, but but the, they have all these they they pass these laws, the cyber security and infrastructure security agents agency act of 2018 under the Department of Homeland Security, and it’s generic in terms of all kinds of security. But if you look at the website for this agency, they’ve got a whole election webs, you know, page, a section of pages.

So there’s no question that they are they they are targeting election. They’re talking about training in Idaho. You know, they’re like, oh, we we we went and did cyber training in Idaho to the election people, and and it’s been stated already. Well, why would you you know, what does cybersecurity have to do with elections if it’s not connected to the Internet? And, you know, there’s been this roaring controversy.

Michael and Dell and his people have pushed, you know, have proven that they were connected to the Internet. Everybody says, nope. It wasn’t. Oh, here it is right here. Nope.

Nope. Can’t get I don’t see that. There’s a meme that where a cartoon of somebody with a eye drops is marked, I didn’t see that. And, you know, they’re they’re putting it putting in their eye. So, I believe that we, you know, we could show that there’s there’s there’s procurement fraud, there’s due process.

In fact, actually just so you see the states can run their own elections, but once they decide to go by a vote as Bush v Gore said, they have to have standards that are consistent. They they can’t violate due process. They can’t violate equal protection of the law. And so if some states allow you to be be hacked and some states don’t, that’s not acceptable. But the thing is, like I say, is is they’re playing this I mean, it’s a child’s game.

It’s so childish to say, like, you know, here’s the proof that they’re connected to the Internet. It’s like, no, they’re not. Everybody I mean, the the news just keeps saying it. So one of the things that we were hoping to do, not only on that topic, but on other things, is if people can go if you know anybody or if you can get to know them in the in the county officials. Like, my aunt lives in a very republic.

I don’t think there’s any elected democrat in in this county. And I’ve gotten to know that, you know, the elect well, I got to know it was quite quite a while ago. I mean, the elect the election official of the county was totally with us. So So you might think of some of them as the enemy and some of them county by county may be your friend. And and try to find out what does your state require?

Do do they have, you know, law, regulations, or procurement processing? You can’t be connected to the Internet. And yet here we have this whole federal agency and this 501c3 that go or 501 whatever categories, you know, to deal with cyber attacks on elections. So it’s just it’s insane. I mean, the the the contradiction.

But like I say, in order to go into court, lawyers need law, they need legal actions, they need precedent, but they also need facts. And a lot of times when plaintiff, you know, clients would come to me or other lawyers and say, can you file, you know, can you can you file a lawsuit? Well, no. Not until you give me the facts. I mean, I you know the facts.

I don’t I don’t know what you went through. I don’t know your what your search circumstances. So we’re in a situation where they’re denying they’re denying reality, and and and I look at it. I think we need to, like, nail them to the wall on the fact that, yes, they’re connected to the Internet. And if, obviously, they’re subject to hacking, and therefore, paper ballots are the only possibility.

Speaker 3:

I agree, John. So

Speaker 2:

go yeah.

Speaker 0:

Go ahead.

Speaker 3:

Yeah. I totally agree. And, you know, we’ve looked at this every way we can look at it. We followed the trail. Every direction we can follow the trail.

We’ve looked at every possible solution. The gentleman that spoke earlier, I think last name Angelo maybe, he’s he’s absolutely right. Patrick mentioned it too before he had to leave, the call, and it it’s absolutely true. If you have a cell phone today, a smartphone, then you can create a a hotspot with your phone for the Internet. And that’s all that’s needed to connect the machine to the Internet allowing and ensuring into these machines.

And one thing I haven’t heard anybody say yet is that this isn’t just about data collection, a one way communication from the machine up through to the government to the federal government. This is a two way communication possibility where they’re looking at data in real time and can be communicating information back to the machines. And I’m not gonna go so far as to accuse them openly on this call of nefarious intent doing that necessarily. But the whole problem is the minute you connect them to the Internet, it’s capable. It’s capable for our government to do it.

It’s capable for China to do it. It’s capable for Russia to do it. It’s possible for anybody in the world to do it. For heaven’s sakes, most of the big cyber attacks that happened in this country, whether it’s a Social Security system last week or the auto industry a couple weeks before that, or Ascension Medical before that. I can keep going down the list of cyber attacks.

Huge cyber attacks. Okay? Most of those, you know, a lot of those are coming from 14, 15 year old kids in their in their, bedroom somewhere. So, you know, it’s not strictly about accusing the federal government of what we think they’re probably guilty of. But the fact is if they’re connected to the Internet, anybody can gain access.

And so JP Go ahead.

Speaker 0:

I mean By the way

Speaker 3:

by by the way, I wanna mention one other thing for people who are on this call. The documents from CIS and CIA concerning Albert censures has disclaimers all through that agreement saying that the machine that they’re putting in is not really designed to prevent hacking. It’s not really designed to do anything other than grab an IP address of somebody who came in and out of machines who isn’t them. Okay? It’s not really designed to do any of that.

And so

Speaker 0:

So it it it will tell you you’ve been shot, but it won’t prevent you from being shot.

Speaker 3:

Correct. Correct. It’s like the law it’s like, you know, law enforcement showing up to write up what happened 20 minutes before they got there. Go ahead.

Speaker 0:

So, Bush v Gore, for example, when you when you get into it, they didn’t come they they didn’t even I mean, they wouldn’t, but no matter what they’re thinking, but but they didn’t breathe a hint of the idea that anyone was creating this mess in Florida that people remember it intentionally. I mean, they they they they I mean, their analysis was it, you know, innocently or not, the the there was no workable standard and therefore it violated the constitution. It you know, they didn’t even have to go there in terms of, you know, why or or anybody having bad faith and I I think that, you know, I I think we we may have our opinions, but, no. So that was oh, you said something else. I wanna but but, no, I think that’s that’s more if you wanna go ahead, I I I forgot the other point.

Speaker 3:

Well, the other point and and a bigger point even, thank you for this call tonight because if anybody thinks that a politician is gonna solve this problem, you you’re not paying attention. This problem can only be solved by the American people. It can only be solved by people at the county level, local level, dealing with their local officials. It can only be solved by going to court, in this case, the US Supreme Court, even though we have cases pending elsewhere in other states right now on all this. The Supreme Court of the United States is the only one that has the authority to issue orders as it pertains to elections across the country.

That’s the only court in the country that has that jurisdiction. And so, you know, what we’re dealing with here is truly unlike the Kennard and the story at the campaign stump. Dealing with saving democracy, the ability of the people to self govern through elections, peaceful elections. That’s what we’re trying to save here. And it shouldn’t matter what somebody’s politics is.

It should be critically important to every American.

Speaker 0:

And Jamie, I I remembered, I think the point that that I wanted to just emphasize what you said is that, once you have an opening, intended or not, there’s no way to make it. I mean, Angelo could probably tell us. We probably need to get some technical affidavits from him or or and and and maybe others is that once you have an opening, you can’t control it being one way. Right? I mean, it’s it’s because hacking is breaking the system, I guess.

Is that so, I mean, if if you’re hacking, you’re doing something that it’s not designed to do. So

Speaker 2:

you could say

Speaker 0:

it’s not designed

Speaker 3:

I mean, theoretically, a hack is a unofficial and unapproved access to something. Okay? The Pentagon has hacks. Every everything has hacks now from all over the world. And so the idea that our elections can run on the Internet without intrusions, without hacks.

What no matter where it’s coming from. It’s just insane. And the only way to prevent that would have been to never allow them to be connected to the Internet, but we didn’t do that. They’re all connected to the Internet. Because they’re connected to the Internet, the government showed up and said, hey.

We’re here to help. Just put this piece of hardware and software in that allows us to communicate with your sheen your machines in real time Two way communication. Well, that that violates everything about privacy and votes. It violates, you know, the right of 1 person, one vote. It it it violates everything.

And at the end of the day, when you accumulate and put that all together, it amounts to nothing short of a collapse of democracy. The ability of the people, you know, the ability of the the ability of the American voters to choose their own path and their own future. It it destroys all of that. And so I

Speaker 0:

think Angelo wants to

Speaker 3:

At the very least, by the way, if I put the best possible spin on it for our government, the best possible spin I can put on it is that they’ve made it so that they cannot secure the elections, period.

Speaker 0:

So our technical, Angela, I think

Speaker 3:

So here’s

Speaker 4:

here’s the other thing that legal has to account for. Under the guise of what is and isn’t networkable, anybody who’s gotten some type of multifunction copier at home. You have a multifunctional system, like, you know, you you may have some type of Xerox or some type of, Konica or some type of multifunction HP type device, fax, scan, print, and you put it under warranty. Now what happens is you have a separate phone home feature that is not considered part of a network. You have a separate maintenance connection that is not considered part of a network.

So when you start looking at legal and you start looking at networkable devices that are on or off the Internet or on the network or on the backbone, you also have to consider those other maintenance type type networks because they will not show up in your audit. They will not show up as part of a networkable device, but they will still allow that two way phone home access, and you can surely manipulate, change, modify, add, delete data on the fly, and do it instantly. You can download a patch. You can download an update. And you have no idea how that system was preconfigured and all that previous data, which was now transmitted and loaded somewhere has now all changed.

And the system can be wiped clean.

Speaker 3:

Angelo, that’s exactly what many of us witnessed in 2020 in real time during election day when we’re watching election results flip from one candidate to the next moments later. That’s exactly what was happening. And so, you know, at the end of the day here, there’s really no choices other than to do everything we can possibly do to affect paper balloting and hand counting with very firm on-site poll watching. Legitimate poll watching.

Speaker 4:

Thing. Can

Speaker 2:

I ask a question?

Speaker 4:

Oh, I’m sorry. Yeah. Go ahead.

Speaker 8:

Can I

Speaker 9:

you keep talking about hand counting? Are you saying that the tabulating machines are also, able to be hacked that they’re they can connect?

Speaker 3:

I’m saying that we just simply don’t know location to location. What we do know is the main factor that brought us here is the Albert sensors. The Albert sensors we have been told and we have reason to believe they’ve been installed and programmed in 98% of the counties across the country. That’s problem number 1. But as Angelo has explained, there’s multiple other vulnerabilities in all of this.

The minute that the Internet is anywhere close or that the network machine is capable of connecting to the Internet by multiple means, multiple processes. Literally, there could be a van sitting outside with a huge hotspot and everything’s running through there to the balance of the globe. It’s that I mean, it’s that wide open. And so when you say, you know, the tabulating machines, what if there’s a program that’s downloaded into the tabulating machine that is switching every 1.3 votes from one side to the other.

Speaker 9:

That’s what I’m that’s what I’m asking about. I live in Washington. We’ve been doing all mail voting for about 10 years now.

Speaker 3:

Well, Washington state

Speaker 9:

We have paper ballots. Yeah.

Speaker 3:

Yeah. Parts of Washington state, certain counties out there where, you know, we know about we’re in contact with that are also doing exactly what we’re saying. They’re they’re pushing back. They they refused to, you know, some of the counties refused to put Albert in out there, and they’ve been pushing back on it. But other counties within the state, you know, most of the time the county level officials don’t really know what they’re working with here.

They they’re they’re not tech savvy, and when the government shows up I’ll give you an instance in Kansas where the secretary of state has no authority to order that these things be put in at the county level. Each county, official had to make that decision and contract to put it in with CIS. But when they went to the secretary of state and said this doesn’t sound like a good idea. It sounds like we’re not supposed to be connected to the Internet. And in Kansas state, the law says that the machine can’t even be capable of connecting to the Internet in any fashion, much less actually connected.

And the secretary of state in Kansas told the local officials, well, we don’t have the authority to tell you to put it in, but we strongly suggest that you do. And strongly suggest for those who don’t understand how government works in general, it strongly suggest means you better do it or else. Okay? And so there’ll be some other consequence. And I one other thing I wanna mention, a lot of the states out there right now, and yours could be one of them in Washington, a lot of the state governments have been instituting new laws or new guidelines to cover up what it is they’re doing here.

By doing things Michigan has passed a whole slew of new election laws in Michigan that won’t allow anybody to question whether or not the elections are legit. Won’t let them have access to any of the data. Won’t allow them to, initiate an audit, won’t allow them to participate in any audit. So in addition to what’s going on here with the cyber stuff and this tech stuff, there’s certain states out there that are moving in the direction of preventing anybody from even asking any questions about it.

Speaker 2:

Well, we’ve got a pretty

Speaker 9:

strong election integrity, program going now through our our state Republican party, and our chair is a, state

Speaker 3:

rep. Good. And so, you know, so what needs to happen, whether it’s Washington or the other 49 states here, is you need to take where you’re at right now and try to, you know, hop, skip, and jump across the state to other county officials. And say, look, we got we, you know, we got a big problem here, all of us. And here’s the thing too.

John mentioned this earlier. There’s equal application of the law involved here. Equal rights that are involved. Even within the state where some counties are doing it the right way, but other counties aren’t doing it the right way. How do you certify that that election?

How do you certify that as a state?

Speaker 9:

Yeah. We’ve had problems with King County. Our our point of failure primarily seems to be at the registration end. Motor voter.

Speaker 3:

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That’s a problem too. And like I said, you know, we’re only dealing with, you know, the primary issue right here.

And we’re we’re making a educated assumption here that we can probably eliminate maybe as much as 70, 80% of the fraud if we just disconnect from the Internet. It doesn’t mean there aren’t other means of fraud.

Speaker 10:

Hi. My name’s Steve. Can I jump in here for a sec?

Speaker 3:

Sure, Steve. Go ahead.

Speaker 10:

So I’m in New York. I’m an attorney. I’m also been a poll worker for a number of cycles. I’m also involved with the, RNC protect vote, which hasn’t really gotten started yet. But we’re we have a similar situation in New York.

Like, we have paper ballots that are put through a tabulator. The tabulator in my county is, ES and SD s 200. I have checked to find the Internet connection on the tabulator, and I have not found one. I’ve been through several cycles. I’ve been with the machine.

I’ve looked at it up and down. I’ve seen I looked at it inside. I’ve checked to find any, Wi Fi access points, signaling off of it, and I don’t find anything. The pull pads where people sign in, that’s where those are definitely connected to the Internet, and they are real time connected to a database, you know, voter registrations. And likewise to, what was just being described about Washington state, the problem in New York is the registrations.

There are been determined, there’s been papers written on it about phantom registrations, you know, that, by law, every individual is supposed to have one unique voter ID number, and it’s been determined that people have multiple ones. And just voting with an alternative to with a person that votes 2 ID numbers, that’s a felony, but it happens all the time. We get elections, where, in many counties, there’s overvotes of more ballots cast than voters, registered voters or voters that that signed in at the poll pad. So, you know, you could do all the and and I I applaud the effort to, stop machines being connected to the Internet, but, you know, that’s just part of the solution. If if the voter, registration database problem is not solved and in states where you have, mass mail in ballots going out to people and then coming back, fraudulently, whether the people moved out of state, whether they have 20 people registered to a parking lot, or Home Depot.

And like I said, in New York state, they have a a a cipher which has been written in a a a a paper that’s been published in a journal, and a white paper, and that paper, finds has presents data about a cipher, a code that’s built into registration numbers that they can use to manipulate the, registration database and achieve the vote that is desired.

Speaker 3:

So Do you happen to know is, is New York happen to be partnered with the ERIC system for their voter registration roles?

Speaker 10:

I believe that it is. I’m not sure about that. I I I you know, I’m familiar are you familiar with the, like, the Fractal technology to to to real time correct the errors in databases. That that, every every county across the whole country needs to use that.

Speaker 3:

Well Are you

Speaker 10:

familiar with that that, there’s a there’s a gentleman named Jay Valentine. He he runs this company called Omega for America, and, I know he’s shown videos where he’s used his software. And he’s he’s not the only company that makes Fractal technology. I know that he his company has developed this to find, insurance fraud for CMS and, you know, applications like that. But they can also you they can search databases in ways that the traditional relational database searches can’t find.

And they can determine, all all these kind of, illegitimate registrations and purge them from the voter rolls in real time. It needs to happen all the way up to date, like the day of election.

Speaker 3:

I agree that, you you know, again, in the state of Michigan, which in my opinion is one of the worst in the country in all this, you know, the secretary of state there has been ordered by at least 3 different courts 3 different times to remove fraudulent, register registrations in vote in the voter rolls, and she has never actually done it. The voter rolls there are still full of illegal voters. And so and that’s not the only state. She is working, by the way. She’s admitted to working in concert with at least 6 out of the 7, swing states, the secretaries there.

So we’re running into very similar things in those 6, 7 states. And once we get out of those states, we see all kinds of things.

Speaker 10:

Right. So, I mean, obviously, New York’s not a swing state. In terms of, like, the presidential general election, is probably not significant. But down ballot wise, it is rather significant, especially when it comes to, if you’re, you know, a Republican, it that it’s definitely significant in terms of maintaining, the majority in the house.

Speaker 3:

Right. Because that’s the other thing that people need to remember is this isn’t just presidential election. This is all the damn ballot stuff, including ballot initiatives and the likes. So everything up everything up and down the ballot is affected by this.

Speaker 10:

And including state and local officials?

Speaker 3:

After absolutely. Absolutely.

Speaker 6:

Gentlemen, can, I’ve got I’ve only got 2 people left to have their hands up to ask questions. A lot of our folks have kind of peeled off of the, call. Can we take a couple questions?

Speaker 3:

Certainly. Go ahead.

Speaker 6:

Laura, you’re up first. You might have to unmute Laura. I can’t hear you.

Speaker 11:

Are you talking to me?

Speaker 6:

Yeah. Your hand hand’s been up.

Speaker 11:

An accident. I don’t know.

Speaker 6:

Oh, okay. Okay. What about Angela m? Are you still wanting to ask a question, Angela?

Speaker 11:

Can’t

Speaker 6:

Angela, can you hear me?

Speaker 2:

Hi. Okay.

Speaker 6:

How about Yvonne?

Speaker 11:

Hello? Oh,

Speaker 6:

there you are. It’s very, very faint.

Speaker 11:

Yeah. I’m having issues with my call. I did this update on it. It’s not working. No.

I didn’t get that in. I’m sorry. My lady, you apologize.

Speaker 6:

Okay. Thank you, Yvonne.

Speaker 11:

Yeah. I have a question. Can we require a ballot instead of voting on a machine?

Speaker 3:

Brad or John, you might wanna answer that from the legal

Speaker 2:

Yes. This is what

Speaker 1:

this is what right. Mike Mike Lindell has been promoting the idea that, you order a mail in ballot from, you know, the normal channels. You get your mail in ballot. You do not use it. You put it in your back pocket, and you go on election day, and you cast a ballot in your name.

If you get there and somebody has cast a ballot in your name, you file a complaint, and we have a email address, voter integrity at former fedsgroup.org, you send us an email with the circumstances, and then we will follow-up in terms of referring that out for, investigative attention, maybe even criminal prosecution. I know that this is a real thing because in 2,012, I had 3 different people call me out of the blue, including my, my wife’s cousin who went to the ballot to cast a vote, and somebody had already voted for them. So this is a real thing. So that’s what I would say about that is the little English topspin I would put on that is make darn sure that you’re gonna actually show up and vote. If for any reason you can’t make it on that day, you get sick, whatever, make sure that gets into a a a ballot box properly completed and signed.

On or before the election date. It’s it’s gotta be you know, it has to have a there’s a postmark requirement in these states. So that’s that’s, Mike Lindell’s recommendation. I think it’s a good recommendation. I think it it can, generate some additional leads.

I think if enough people do that, we’re we’ll be likely to find some some more problems. So, yeah, please, please, please do that. In regards to that email address, voter integrity at former fedsgroup.org, in the in the chat, we laid out the idea here is is is to find again, we’re we’re trying to economize our resources and try to get our ammunition on target downrange, and we’re making some, educated guesses about which justices might be so inclined or moved to, accept a case that’s properly filed. And we have, justice Thomas, justice Alito, justice Gorsuch, justice Kavanaugh, and justice, Coney Barrett. And the way that it works is it gets it gets divided.

They take judicial circuits, and, basically, there’s a number of states in each circuit. I think that, justice Kavanaugh actually has 2 circuits. That’s, like, quite quite a lot of coverage. And we’ve laid out these, the states, higher up in that in in the chat log. And, ideally, what we’ll we’ll be able to do is we’ll be looking for a project manager to, essentially manage and constantly, update and, curate and lead this effort.

Ideally, they’ll be we’ll be able to get people in each one of these states that volunteer to reach out to the different counties. They can again, resources are finite. You can pick the counties in your state where you think some of the appropriate officials may have concerns about, in this case, Internet, you know, an open Internet connection or the ability to hack into the voting machines. And we’re gonna have a by probably tomorrow, we’ll have a sample affidavit that could be shared, and that person can go and, use that as a go by, you know, update it however it needs to be updated so that it’s an accurate sworn statement, swear it in a vera in front of a notary, get it, sign in front of that notary, and then email it as an attachment to, voters, voter I’m sorry. I think it’s voter integrity.

Hey. Look. Now that you mentioned it. You know what? I’ll I’ll I’ll do one for both.

Voter integrity, former federal group dot org, and probably do election integrity at former federal group dot org. And regardless, it’s gonna get to the right people. We’ll we’ll probably send something around maybe tomorrow that distills this down to 1 page. And, of course, what what you’re seeing here is because we all know each other and because everybody paid the cost of admission to be here, which is the torture and killing of your loved one, or you’ve somehow survived with, you know, a lot of side effects and and injury in testament to what to what you went through. You know, we’re all like family here.

So what what we’ve done is we basically because we have to collapse all the timelines, we took the timeline a through z, and we broke it up in aligned segments. And that’s what you’re seeing here. It’s all just kind of all being worked out at once. So we have people working on what the ultimate filing will be. We have people working on getting attorneys to sign up and sign off on what the filing will be.

And we have all of you who are the point people for getting the word out to the county executives who are in charge of these election devices, who may have their own concerns about whether these things are secure and who may be willing to to complete an affidavit. We can then aggregate those. And depending on how many we get, we can characterize that in our application, and we may be able to give these 5 justices, you know, 5 bites at the apple. You know, we may be able to configure it where, you know, one out of the 5 is enough for it to be taken up by the Supreme Court. And, of course, really, I think the most compelling reason why somebody the Supreme Court must take it is because people are talking about there not being a peaceful transition of power, which is what the big allegedly, the big concern was in January 6th when it really wasn’t a concern at all in my my humble opinion.

Here, it actually is. I mean, there there there there’s smart people prognosticating and making predictions that may frankly make me feel uncomfortable. But also we think there’s a very real possibility of instability. Even worse, people reference the possibility of violence, civil unrest. So we think that the US Supreme Court has to step in.

It’s the only entity they can, and, it has to ensure that everybody has full faith and credit in our election system. It’s our lifeblood of our system. So and we’re gonna turn this all around. We’re hoping within 14 days or even sooner. So, everybody should be watching their inboxes.

If we don’t have your contact information, please put it in, I’m gonna have by the way, I’m gonna have that email address. If if Trang’s on now, she’s probably she’s probably in the process of doing it now. But we want a voter voter integrity at formerfessgroup.org and also election integrity at formerfedsgroup.org, and we’ll get an internal group with prior, priorities that where where that can come in and it can be properly routed.

Speaker 0:

Well, I I think we I think we needed to say a little bit about what we’re why we’re look what we’re looking for from this group is that we’re gonna need plaintiffs. You know, we need people like voters who have been maybe had their votes diluted, but also to make sure we have standing, we’d like to get any county officials. I mean, or whatever jurisdiction it is, election related officials who can, say that they need to know what to do. I mean, whether they wanna take a position or they just wanna say, look, we we got a problem here, and you need to tell me, you know, what laws I’m supposed to follow or what things or but but but somebody who works in an election office in the county or wherever it might be. I know Michigan is a mess in terms of all their different types of election officials.

You know, that they clearly have standard. It’s, you know, it’d be be important to have somebody where there’s no question about it, and we’d also like to get, you know, information on the other side of the curtain is to is to, you know, were they told that these are connected to the Internet? Were they told that it was not? And in fact, it is. You know, with was there can we prove that there was a lie?

Because, like I say, they’re gonna you saw with all the lawsuits in 2020, they’re gonna say, oh, you don’t know. You just have a vague suspicion. So if someone on the inside can say no, they promised us it would not be connected to the Internet, and it is. Connect to the Internet. Then we have clear undeniable facts that that we can we can hit them with.

So if if people can, you know, can get to get in contact with people in their in their locality or learn from the state, you know, what are the requirements in the state. That would be enormously helpful and there’s just no way we could we lawyers could do that on short notice. That that’s just not gonna get done. So if we can, you know, divide up the work that would be among the various states that would be really important.

Speaker 3:

Brad and John, this is JB. I have to I have to leave to my next appointment, my next meeting here if that’s okay, unless you need something else. Alright. Thank you, sir. Out.

But thank you all for being involved. Thank you everybody for being here tonight. It’s it’s up to the people to solve problems like this, you know. We can we can do all of the planning, all the strategic maneuvering. We can do all the drafting of cases and all that kind of stuff.

But at the end of the day, it has to have the support of you, the people, in order for this to go anywhere. And God bless this nation. God bless everybody willing to take a stand for what’s right in this country.

Speaker 1:

Thank you, JB. Look forward to work with you on this. So that’s basically the ask is, well, we hope to I’m actually, traveling tomorrow, but maybe by tomorrow night, we’ll have some sample affidavits to hand around and, take a look in the chat, in regards to the states that we listed. Maybe some folks want a quarterback on 1 or more of those states and, we wanna gather up as many affidavits as we can gather up plaintiffs as John said. It’s voters are voters should should have standing if if from Justice Thomas wasn’t expanded well well beyond what it was intended, the voters would would have taxpayers would have standing.

But, clearly, these county executives do. And so I would focus on red counties, and and and each of you know your state way better than I do. You probably have a sense as to where it might be, you know, where the lucrative phone call might be made. And, you know, all we need is somebody who has the authority and the willingness to complete an affidavit, that’s conformed to what their truthful experience is. We can we can use that, and then we can also, if they’re willing, they could become a named plaintiff.

John, what what did I miss as our as our legal scholar and, legal strategist extraordinaire?

Speaker 0:

Well What did

Speaker 1:

I miss? That

Speaker 0:

that’s it. It’s just that it’s just that the more information that we can get out in the different states. We do wanna have we do wanna have more than one Court of Appeal circuit represented, because that’s when the Supreme Court really feels they need to step in is and and so we’d like to have multiple states in at issue, and there’s just no way in the world we’re gonna get that done, if we don’t have have help. So any information about what’s going on in your locality, would really be key.

Speaker 4:

Jonathan, Brad, may I?

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 4:

Of course. Do not have you need 2 things that you absolutely must have before this all starts. You need a checklist, and the checklist must be standardized across the entire country that everybody must who participates must sign off or initial. This way, there is zero plausible deniability. And if there’s 0 plausible deniability because you checked that box on that checklist, now you’re aware, and you are now part of this process.

And it must be standardized. And if you don’t have that checklist before you even begin this process, then you’re you’re facing an uphill battle in court where everybody can say, hey. I thought everything was secure. It was it was told to me that these systems are not networkable, or I have no idea what you’re talking about. And then the second thing is all the laws, whether they’re county, state, or federal, which law trumps which law.

Pardon the pun. However, what happens then is people cannot say you have no jurisdiction. You cannot look at these machines. You cannot look at the numbers. You cannot collect this data because it is not in your purview.

It is not part of your access or your your, your jurisdiction. So those laws have to be standardized across every county, across every state, and across the federal government for every single solitary location. So you need both.

Speaker 1:

Things are

Speaker 0:

you talking about? We got 2 people with their hands up, I know, but what kind of things are you talking about on checklist? What do you have in mind?

Speaker 4:

So once you have the receipt of a system, now that system is in a warehouse that’s under lock and key, and then all of a sudden, some van shows up, and they’re doing maintenance updates. They’re they’re gaining special access to those systems. And before you know it, updates are being made to those boxes that you signed off on, and now all of a sudden they’re networkable, quote, unquote. Or maybe it’s like the Microsoft patch. And on every Tuesday, Microsoft just blatantly rolls out this nationwide patch, and it could also be something like a hotfix.

So both those cover different updates, changes, modifies, and and and a change control is only as good as the paper it’s written on. A checklist is only as good as the paper it’s written on. And if you don’t have a checklist that is standardized, that is dated, that is registered and received, because you can have a checklist sitting in someone’s desk that gets checked after the fact, but you have to have that in receipt and say

Speaker 0:

Oh, I’m I I used to are you saying we create a checklist to as a questionnaire, or are you saying that there should be they should they should have one?

Speaker 4:

That should already have been been part of the standard. That should already have been part of a national rollout. If it’s not there yet, then it’s time to implement 1 and put 1 in place because every single location will now be open to individual scrutiny because this guy can say something different. That guy can say something different. That guy can say something.

Now all standard is going out the window. So everybody has to be on the same playing field. Everybody has to play with that same set of rules. The basketball goal has to be 10 feet high. The the foul line has to be 15 feet away.

The arc has to be this big. A rule is a rule is a rule. And if you don’t have those rules in place and everybody who is participating has not signed off, then all of a sudden, ownership goes out the window, responsibility goes out the window. Hey. I was never told.

I didn’t realize or I didn’t know. Right? You know? So that’s how you eliminate all that gray area. That’s how you eliminate

Speaker 0:

I’m sure a lot of people didn’t know, but you’re, see, this is where I don’t know, because if you’re saying if if there if there is procurement of voting machines, there are probably state and there are federal. The the the the the machines have to be certified by the electronic assistance, what is it, center, which is federal. They have to have, you know, a stamp of approval, and I’m sure the state procurement people have to do that too. And whether or not in a locality decides to to to purchase it, and then I would imagine somebody has to show up. Right?

I mean, it doesn’t just show up by UPS. You’re suggesting somebody would have to go there. They would have to go deliver the machines and a person would have to show

Speaker 4:

up too. Absolutely. They don’t set themselves up. Somebody has already arrived and delivered that machine to that location. Somebody else will have done the update.

Somebody else will be doing something called PM, which is completely different than updates. And every time somebody has access to those systems, it should be recorded. Every time somebody has access, changes can be made. Add, modify, change, change control is created so that every time somebody enters that data center, it’s recorded. Every time somebody enters that computer room, it’s tracked.

These machines are sitting in warehouses, installed in barns, in bins, in containers. They don’t have any standard of where and how they’re delivered and located. They could be You know, I I a big truck.

Speaker 1:

I agree with all of that. And and at some point, I mean, if we’re successful with this based on access to the Internet and, you know, why is this why is this CIS why is it publishing all this stuff about hacking and all this stuff if these machines really don’t have access? Right? So that’s that’s the compelling issue that I think is simple enough and self evident enough where you could pull it all together in 2 to 3 weeks. And if if I mean, boy, if if the Supreme Court ruled in our favor and said, hey.

We don’t care how you do it. It’s gotta be paper ballots. You’re right. It’s a big threat. In the wake of all that, then there’s gonna be all kinds of stuff like you’re talking about, which seems very sensible, and I com completely agree with you.

If you can’t authenticate it and audit it and track it and everything’s there’s accountability and all these things, then it’s the same thing as saying that that that you don’t have the the right to vote. Like, it’s it’s it’s that important. But we I I can’t see Like, I was thinking about the check well, first of all, think about a checklist. Like, having I worry about when when when you’re talking about getting somebody to sign on, it could be a plaintiff and or, just fill out an affidavit. It makes it makes me he asks seems like it’s a little bit bigger than the affidavit that I think we’re gonna end up sending around which we’d love for you to look at, Angelo, and tell us what’s wrong about it.

That’s gonna be significantly couched around this. Albert Einstein, like, why do you need why do you need this Albert program if it really doesn’t have Internet access? Making sense.

Speaker 4:

Correct. Here’s here’s the problem. When you are talking about the man in the middle, the man in the middle becomes the vulnerability itself. I can walk around with a backpack. In my backpack, I can put a device in there called the pineapple.

I can walk into the middle of a mall. Everybody in that mall is connecting to different stores, JCPenney, Macy’s, Spencer’s gift. They’re all connecting. My pineapple can sit there and find all these different stores. In an instant, it could say, I’m going to take every front end of every store and put it on my device.

Now everybody who connects to that Macy’s, that Spencer’s Gifts, and that JCPenney’s thinks they’re connecting to a store. They’re connecting to My Pineapple. My Pineapple then says, here’s the user demographic data for this user. He’s looking for Levi’s jeans. We’re gonna send this data out to every single gene manufacturer in the country.

They’re going to have his data, his demographic info, and before you know it, just like people have experienced today, they’re having a conversation with someone, and all of a sudden, their phone is getting blasted with advertising information on something they just spoke because of one key word. They could have said Toyota, and all of a sudden they’re getting look at this. We just talked about Toyota a a minute ago, and it shows up on my phone as an advertisement. So nobody understands the man in the middle attack until they’ve been attacked, then it’s too late. And the man in the middle does not have to be some guy in a black hoodie that’s clandestine that you think, wow.

That’s a really unscrupulous individual. It could be the guy right next to you. It could be the car parked right next to you, And every single electronic device that’s out on the market today is absolutely subject to being attacked by some type of vulnerability.

Speaker 1:

Right. So our position

Speaker 2:

is Yeah. Go ahead.

Speaker 1:

Our position is you if it has an internet hook up. It’s not secure and you can’t certify the results and because because the no, I’m saying like the the voting machine is Spencer’s gifts If Spencer’s gifts, if you’re seeing that on Wi Fi, then then it has Internet hookup. So it’s it’s no good. Like, that’s something along those lines is gonna be because in order to get on this short notice and and and get the compelling, constitutional interest into getting a supreme court justice to reach down and grab this thing. Right?

It’s gotta be simple. And as simple as these machines have have Internet hookups, or or somebody with a pineapple can hack in a the machine somehow. Like, I don’t know what the terminology is gonna be. You can you can I’m sure sure you’d be reading a draft and helping us with with the tech specs. But to me, just the fact that it is, you can see the voting machine like you can see Spencer gifts is the problem that they can’t fix.

And because they can’t fix it, that’s what makes the only, reasonable relief, paper ballots hand counted. You’re muted.

Speaker 4:

That’s exactly right. Here’s the other thing. Because in networking, you have an unnetworkable address. Every device has its own MAC address, machine address. If I wanna disable that machine from connecting, I can create an APIPA.

An APIPA address means this address only connects to itself. It doesn’t connect to someone else. People have already figured out how to take unnetworkable addresses and make them addressable and create a network out of an unnetworkable address. So any networking at all should disqualify that machine. What’s the Okay.

Speaker 1:

Well, you just said right there, Angelo, I don’t have the technical experience to explain it, but that’s an important point because we wanna go down this cascade of options and say, because of this, the only appropriate relief is this. If appropriate relief is a, if you can’t accomplish appropriate relief a, then you have to appropriately leave b. If you can’t do b, you gotta do c. If you can’t do c, then you have to basically go to paper ballots hand count it. And c is somewhere, like, even if they were assigned to it a non networkable address, you know, this it’s it’s now common knowledge that this is not the fix all either, and then and then we explain that with your help.

Makes sense? You’re muted again, Angelo.

Speaker 4:

That’s the whole thing. Is if if you know, you know. It’s either pork in that sandwich or it’s either meat in that sandwich or it’s not meat in that sandwich. So the idea is that machine has the capacity to be networked. It’s off off the table.

It’s off the table. You can’t it’s either a yes or a no. Does this machine have the capacity to be networked? Is it networked? That’s disqualified.

This is taken care of the table.

Speaker 1:

John, he just hit it right there. Is it networked if it’s not network, does it have the capacity to be networked if it has the capacity to be to be networked, it doesn’t qualify and because it’s overseen by a 501 C3 for whom there’s no accountability. There’s no office of Inspector General. It’s overseeing it. There’s no it’s not subject to foyer this Yeah.

John John knows all that legal mumbo jumbo. Okay. Hey, I I I’m sorry for both guarding everybody’s meeting, but I thought it was an important thing to do. I don’t know if if there are folks out there who wanted continue from here with the ordinary meeting. I can hand over controls to Sherry if if Sherry has the bandwidth.

Speaker 6:

Well, Brad, we still have right now, I’ve got one person in queue. I lost 2. So, honey, Sharon would like to ask a question.

Speaker 10:

Okay. Hi, Brad.

Speaker 1:

Hi, Sharon.

Speaker 12:

Somebody put a list on our one thing about justices of the supreme court, like the 6th court, whatever. They did not include Maryland. I am Maryland. Who is the justice that oversees the court of state of Maryland?

Speaker 10:

Chief Justice Roberts. Okay. For circuit.

Speaker 1:

You know what? I didn’t include Roberts and I probably should have. The answer is if

Speaker 2:

you know of

Speaker 1:

a county executive in whatever state it is, I don’t care what party they are. We don’t really care about parties who for whatever reason is concerned about what Angelo said that these computers have an Internet lookup, which is what I would have said prior to talking to Angelo because I’m not sophisticated. But, really, what what we mean when we say it’s it it has a potential of looking up the Internet is it’s networkable or even if it’s, I I forgot the second, branch of that. My my brain is fried right now. But there there was, like, a 3 step down process that Angelo brought us down.

If you know anybody

Speaker 4:

capable of being that Capable.

Speaker 1:

Thank you. Capable. We would love to have in fact, the more people who are associated from what are construed as Democratic counties, the better as far as I’m concerned because we’re not partisan. And the only reason we’re waiting into this is because no one else is here. Everybody seems to have abandoned the space, and people are talking about instability and violence.

And we have kids, and nobody wants that.

Speaker 12:

No. We wanna straighten it out now so that Exactly. Generations don’t have the problem.

Speaker 1:

Exact and in this particular case, we’re talking about prevention. Right? We’re not talking about, like, if somebody else wants to to, you know, overturn results because they’re not in their view, it’s not accurate, that’s another problem. And that’s after the problem has already metastasized in advance. Right now, we’re just talking about prevention.

Let’s protect it for everybody. Whether you’re democrat, republican, or whatever, we don’t care. We wanna make sure that everybody has full faith and credit in the outcomes.

Speaker 12:

Thank you all for explaining everything to us.

Speaker 1:

Thank you, Susan. Patty Lamar.

Speaker 6:

Come on, Patty. You’re up.

Speaker 1:

Is she teasing us with that hand up there? Did she mean to do it? You didn’t you didn’t, butt dial us. Did you, Patty?

Speaker 6:

She she didn’t appear to be muted, but now she’s I don’t see her.

Speaker 1:

We can’t hear you, Patty.

Speaker 6:

I can’t hear you, hon. Nope. Nope. Can’t hear you.

Speaker 1:

On your phone. Sometimes my computer doesn’t the microphone doesn’t configure sometimes, and I have to call in on my phone and use that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. We can’t do that.

Speaker 10:

I’m sorry. If if we’re for Patty, I was gonna jump in. I I agree with you about, the Supreme Court needing to, wade in on this. So, like, previously, you saw there were these law fair cases that were coming in left and right, and the lawfare was something that was, like, disruptive to society to the point where it could have been, a, like, a progenitor of, violence. Because if people cannot find civil resolution in the ultimate forum to resolve civil disputes, our court system, then what other choice do they have?

So I think the Supreme Court needed to wait in when it came to lawfare, and they did. And I think this is a similar, if not more, urgent situation.

Speaker 1:

That’s exactly right, Steven. Thank you. I for instance, I’m a conscientious objector, but I know a lot of people who aren’t. And, I made a commitment because I wanna really go hard as hard as I I can on on insisting on constitutional rights. And I feel like I have a purity of of intellectual, freedom of movement if if I take the pledge.

I don’t I also have very deep concerns about where where the country’s headed, about what is essentially a Marxist takeover that I’ve watched for 3 decades. But no matter what happens, I’m a conscientious objector. And I’m insisting that our institutions restore and reform and that they they, properly represent all of us. And I also have have the fundamental belief that there’s really great people in these institutions who are helping us from the inside. They’re the 5th column.

People hear about this 5th column concept. I believe there is a 5th column in state of federal governments, and they’re actively trying to help us because they wanna get to where we wanna get to, which is a peaceful, resolution.

Speaker 6:

Okay. So I don’t know if Patty’s gonna be able to come up, but I know Yvonne is also in the room.

Speaker 8:

You want me to try me to try? Yay.

Speaker 2:

That works. Alright.

Speaker 8:

I better turn it down a little bit. Alright. So my question might be for later for later. But what is really getting my go is really getting my go I am seeing all these people wait. I gotta do something.

I gotta do something. Okay. Hold on.

Speaker 2:

Turn off turn off your computer, stupid.

Speaker 8:

I I I use it. Alright. Wait. Hold on. Alright.

Now there we go. So what I wanna know is I saw all I saw I was reading yesterday, and I’m seeing the videos of all these illegal people who are coming into Texas and Florida. The 2 videos that I saw that actually had videos of lines and I mean, huge long lines of illegals coming into the DMVs and being registered to vote when they get a when they get a driver’s license. Now is that part of the I mean, is that part of our complaint? Can that be I mean, that just pisses me off.

Speaker 1:

It pisses all of us off.

Speaker 8:

Is that for later?

Speaker 1:

I don’t think I I think, again, we’ll have to see how this draft is, comes up. But I think that the safest course to to convince the court that it should step in is to just stick around this, stick on this issue regarding that it could be networked. Therefore, it can’t guarantee, an election that that has any kind of integrity. And that’s that’s a risk that’s an enterprise risk management problem for a nation. And and the only the only entity that can step in is, the Supreme Court.

I happen to think that the the motor voter stuff and how they’re automatically generating, voter credentials for illegals, and there’s there’s, there’s a lot of, like, disturbing polling where up to 20% are admitting that they’ve been voting for years and stuff. I mean, it’s very disturbing. I think that’s gonna have to be another claim. This here was we thought there would be a way to it’s like it’s like low hanging fruit. It’s it’s like, it it it it if all goes well and we’re able to get the kind of support we can from county executives or attorneys who are in positions to toward these contracts where they have the implied apparent or actual authority, to sign an affidavit and be a plaintiff, This is the kind of claim that like like like Steven Steven opined that they would be likely to take The motor voter stuff, as offensive as it is, and it is offensive, I think it’s gonna get mired in you know, because the states are gonna come back and they’re gonna say, oh, no.

We’re very careful. These are all the procedures we go through to make sure what the planets alleged isn’t happening even though we all know it’s BS. And you get caught in this he said, she said sausage making thing on this on this on this Internet networking thing. It’s really very simple. Does it have does it have you know, can it be penetrated and can it be manipulated?

If it theoretically can, it shouldn’t be used. It’s very, very simple. But I agree with you. The motor voter stuff I don’t know I don’t know how to say pisses me off because…

Speaker 1:

I’ll bid you and and say something even stronger than that. I don’t know what’s stronger than that is. It it’s really offensive.

Speaker 6:

Brad, I’ve still got Yvonne also on deck. Yvonne?

Speaker 11:

Yeah. Brad, you really didn’t answer my question, the way I needed. If I go in and they have a voting machine, can I ask for a paper ballot and put it in a box and not in the machine? Do they have to let me have the paper ballot instead of the the one you fill out that sticks into the machine?

Speaker 0:

I think it’s gonna depend on the state and the locality, but I think no. If they have whatever system they have, they’re gonna make you do it that way. I mean, I don’t I don’t there’s I don’t know if that fits a provisional ballot scenario. That’s Yeah.

Speaker 10:

But I would say, like, in New York, if you, can’t vote by running your ballot through the tabulator, then you vote by provisional ballot, and that goes in a sealed box to the BOE, and then they open it up and they sort it out there. But that’s just one state.

Speaker 1:

I mean, the only thing is this is the reason that we’re going for hand ballots and count is because one of the big problems here is technology and automation. Because whenever you have technology and automation, it doesn’t require as much human involvement. And if the security protocols aren’t followed or they’re monkeyed with, it it doesn’t take you know, you can have a big effect through voter fraud just by access to data technology. So it’s like throwing a change up at the system. If if if if the supreme court grants what we think we’re gonna be asking for in relief, it’s like throwing a change up at the system where all of a sudden you’re gonna have, you know, thousands more people, republicans and democrats, going to these polling sites and, involved in a system and, you know, prying eyes are are you know, it’s it’s good to have as many eyes on this process as as possible.

Speaker 6:

Okay. I’ve got Marie also that would like to ask a question.

Speaker 8:

Hello. Can you hear me? Can you hear me?

Speaker 6:

Yes. Oh, okay. I just wanted to let

Speaker 8:

you know that I worked the the elections this year in the primary and our PPE elections. And yes, here in Arizona, you can relinquish your ballot and you’ll be given another one to vote at the polling station.

Speaker 1:

That’s very useful information. And it underscores that all these states have, within reason, have different procedures and and, you know, ways that they do things. And most of the time, I’d like to think that these rules and procedures, because you have both parties going like this, you know, historically, it it’s worked. That that’s that’s kinda broken down a little bit. Certainly, over the last few election cycles at a minimum.

Speaker 6:

I’ve got something else I’d like to throw at you, Brad.

Speaker 2:

So

Speaker 6:

this this past week, and this is for everybody that’s on this call that lost anybody in their lifespan. We know that they finally told us that the Social Security numbers had been hacked for, what, 2,000,000,000 people? And I heard a guy talking the other day, and what he said is frightening. He said, I don’t think it’s about stealing your credit rating or your house. I think it’s about using the numbers and old addresses of people who have died and putting those on the newcomers on the black market IDs.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. That would not surprise me at all. I’m sure they, on the dark web, you can buy those in in blocks. I mean

Speaker 6:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Most of our companies have had, I just got notified by, who was it? I just remembered. I was surprised. Big, big company. You know, they lost all my financial data.

And when I was at the Department of Justice, there was a massive breach

Speaker 2:

Yep.

Speaker 1:

Of all of our clearance files for all our top secret clearances and everything. All of our neighbors, the interviews, the raw files, it was all right? So this is gonna be a major challenge going forward, and I really don’t have any

Speaker 6:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

I mean, just keep it afloat. Run your run your credit it’s not a bad idea to run your own credit report. Every now and then when you

Speaker 6:

You can actually contact all 3 of the major credit corporations and tell them to freeze your credit. That way, somebody can’t get new credit in your name. But the other thing that we all probably have to do is figure out, alright, what were all the old addresses that we lived with with our spouses parents, whoever that we’re missing and try to figure out if there’s a way to to protect them, their legacy and keep somebody else from using it. Like you, one of the gentlemen that I’ve been listening to, he he was also involved in the OPM stealing of all that data. And he he searched his name, and he said my name was not in there nor was the name of several of his friends.

But he also pointed out and he didn’t even have this thought about using the the numbers of the the the past. He said all of this data that appeared to have been stolen was actually kind of older data that was not really current. And I it’s like 3 or 4 different conversations all kinda gelled at that point. But we have to be aware that our loved ones and, you know, my parents were both old. You know?

So I’m thinking I gotta figure out what, you know, what I have to do on that, but that’s just something for everybody to keep in mind.

Speaker 2:

Otherwise, you

Speaker 6:

know, Juan might be using your husband’s Social Security number.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. We just got a oh, Patty Lamar just texted and said her son just got a notification from a junior college. I got it from a big company. I forget what it was. But I get I probably get 6 or 8 of those a year.

You know? You can imagine. Like, this stuff is just being bandied about, and lord only knows what they’re doing with it.

Speaker 6:

Yep. But you can you can go to the 3 major credit reporting agencies and at least protect yourself, and just freeze it where, you know, you have to to go to them and say, I’m getting ready to buy a house. Otherwise, they’re not gonna let it happen, and that will help. So just some thought.

Speaker 1:

And a good one. Yvonne, see your hand.

Speaker 6:

Yeah. Yvonne, did here you are.

Speaker 11:

Yeah. I have I have something kind of off the subject here. I am making a honors quilt, and I have about a 130 quilt blocks so far. And I plan on trying to have it done the end of September, but if anybody has gone ahead and wanted it embroidered quilt blocks through Denise Fritter, They need to get her paid because the quilt blocks are done. And as soon as we get the embroider page, she’ll send them to me, and I can start the quilt.

Once I get the quilt done, I’m sending it to former feds for them to raffle.

Speaker 6:

That is going to be so awesome. And for you to do between you and Denise, the logistics and the work that’s going into this is amazing.

Speaker 11:

Well, I would just like to give you a heads up. I I don’t know how to raffle anything. I don’t know if you need a license or whatever, but I’m just gonna send it to whoever they tell me to send it to. The quilt’s gonna probably measure about 80 by 90. So it’s gonna be a big quilt.

Speaker 6:

Yeah. Well, fortunately, former feds is a 501c3, so you can donate.

Speaker 1:

I wonder if it should go to the the, Smithsonian.

Speaker 6:

No. I don’t trust them.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. I know. It’s it’s going around. That’s we gotta get we gotta restore all these institutions. I mean, no.

Everybody’s I was everybody’s trust has just been dragged through the through through the mud. Yeah.

Speaker 12:

We they just stole a bunch of crap from Gettysburg. Artifacts from Gettysburg, a museum here in Pennsylvania.

Speaker 6:

Who stole it? You mean you mean the,

Speaker 12:

somebody? I don’t know who it was, but somebody stole, like, artifacts and stuff from a museum that where it was in a museum in Gettysburg. They just stole it.

Speaker 6:

Nice. It’s sacred. Nothing is sacred anymore. Patty, did you have more to say, hon? You’re still waving at me.

Nope. Nope. Apparently not. So, Brad, I guess that one question that I do have for you, the the idea of having the mail in ballot first as opposed to just plain going and voting on the 1st day of early voting, Does that mean that you’re you’re thinking that maybe, it by getting the the ballot mailed to you, it kinda ties your name up until you actually get into the voting center?

Speaker 1:

I think that, I think the feeling is that it it creates deterrents because, you know, if you’re sending people around and just signing, signing the book on election day, and you show up, you know I I mean, this this actually happened to 3 people in 2012 election who called me about it. Like, that’s that’s a real thing.

Speaker 6:

Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1:

My my my cousin’s it was it was my wife’s cousin’s father, and he was just, like, gobsmacked. He couldn’t believe it. I know that the term has extended, you know, when you can vote and the circumstances to which you can vote. And so there’s probably is something to your point about maybe a locking locking up your, you know, the, the potential of casting a vote, the first for the period before that, but I’m not this this is not my area, and I’m basically relying on Lindell because I think he’s really smart. And when he pitched a group I was in, I was just in the audience.

He said that he had his attorneys review the rules in all 50 states, which suggests to me that they did an extensive risk analysis on it. And so I suspect there’s a lot of reasons for it that I’m not even really familiar with. And by the way, he offered to come on, again. We just have to come up with a time. This is kinda daunting.

You you have to come in and and, talk to us one night. Whether it’s here, it’s it’s it’s on our Saturday night call.

Speaker 6:

Okay.

Speaker 1:

Maybe we can ask him. But I I think the idea is that you have it in your back pocket and you, you know, you get to the polling place in the evening of election night, and lo and behold, somebody has your put your bogus signature in and, you know you know, Gotcha. That kind of a thing. And, maybe the threat of that will will efforts at, engaging in voter fraud, at least that kind of

Speaker 3:

voter fraud.

Speaker 6:

Go ahead, Steph. Can’t hear you yet. Hey.

Speaker 13:

Sorry. I was try I’m driving. I was trying to unmute. I’m sorry. I missed the meeting.

I had, like, something already committed. So I it sounds like it was amazing, and I can’t wait to get briefed on it. But what brat brat about Lindell when we were at the January 6th event, in Jersey, the fundraiser, Sharona Bishop was there and she is with Linda she’s with Linda Law or Linda Legal. She’s the director of Linda Legal. I don’t I don’t know if you remember meeting her, but I spent some time with her.

And if if you if Mike can’t come on and do that, maybe she can. I can reach out to her if you want.

Speaker 1:

Oh, that’d be great. And you you know you know a little bit about how in Philadelphia, they had this is this is crazy, but it’s been going on for years, where they take union members

Speaker 13:

Yeah. My union.

Speaker 1:

You heard rumors about this.

Speaker 2:

They It’s

Speaker 13:

not a rumor. It’s true. It was my union.

Speaker 1:

Okay. So they they they take union members from out of state Mhmm. Put them on buses

Speaker 2:

Buses.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. And they drive them to different precincts

Speaker 2:

Yes.

Speaker 1:

And all the precinct workers, a bus shows up, people come out, and whoever you know, they let them basically sign in the in the in the register and vote. You know, there’s no there’s no ID check. There’s no check of signatures. There’s nothing. And I know a republic a republican.

She was republican at the time, at least. I think she’s Democrat now. But at the time, she she she came out with and she said she was a prosecutor at the time. So she’s, like, donating her time at the at the polling places, and she was traumatized by what she saw. Mhmm.

She said it was crazy. Like, mobs of people were coming in and and casting votes, and she saw them mulling around. And they had, like, a certain amount of time where they would come out and cast and they get back out the bus to go to the next polling place. So it’s bad.

Speaker 13:

Yes. And the way they sold it to us, meaning the union member, the people who the workers, the union workers, who they packed in buses down here in Atlantic City and sent them up to Philly on election day is they, you know, presented to us that we’re gonna go up there and help get out to vote and get people out of their houses and get them to vote. So it was a big scheme just like everything else, and it 100% happened. And 100%, that’s how Philadelphia was captured last time. So it it’s not a rumor, it’s real.

Speaker 1:

So that’s what we’re up against. You gotta you gotta have a big delta between what the the the cover for the for the election fraud, basically. That’s the reality of it. Now it’s harder and harder because you have all these election systems that can be hacked. They got, you know, the duration or you could cast a vote is is, you know, it’s like a I mean I mean, some some states, I think it goes out weeks.

Speaker 13:

Well, my question is and I asked someone this the other night, when we were discussing, you know, these the new health scare, whatever, the pandemic, whatever you wanna call it. But, you know, the when the WHO declared another emergency, whatever.

Speaker 10:

Public health of international concern, otherwise known as a fake.

Speaker 13:

Yeah. Crap. Bullshit. Yeah. Sorry.

Sorry for my Jersey potty mouth, but, yeah, a bunch of BS. So

Speaker 2:

we were talking about that.

Speaker 10:

Mute with buddies, so don’t worry about it.

Speaker 13:

Yeah. So to to push the anyway, back to the mail in votes. So I always thought and I maybe you guys probably already cover this, but I thought mail in votes were provisional.

Speaker 10:

No.

Speaker 13:

So they are always counted.

Speaker 10:

So I I I in New York, I I if you request so now they don’t do automatic mass mail in ballots. You have to actually request your mail in ballot. But once you request that, it gets denoted in the system, and the electronic poll pad at the polling place, which is just like a tablet or like an iPad, and it’s definitely connected to the Internet, will show that you received it, and it’ll block you out from casting a vote at the polling location unless you you spoil it, your your paper ballot, and then cast a provisional. That makes sense?

Speaker 13:

I got yes. Because New Jersey is the same. You have to request it. But I thought that those ballots were only counted if needed. So that’s not the case.

Speaker 10:

No. That become that becomes your primary method of voting, if you request it. Okay.

Speaker 13:

Okay. I understand. I understand that better now. Thank you.

Speaker 1:

Sweet. Same way in New Jersey too.

Speaker 6:

Yes.

Speaker 1:

And I have no faith that they’re deconflicting it. I mean, just the people that vote and they forget that they they completed the, you know, the mail and ballot and they go to the the poll again and they vote again, like, I’m not convinced that that’s deconflicted.

Speaker 10:

I mean, my my recollection was that in the 2020 election, there was a trailer load of pre completed mail in ballots that went from Long Island to Pennsylvania and then, got the the trailer got left in a parking lot someplace and disappeared, never to be seen again.

Speaker 13:

I know that voice now.

Speaker 2:

With with

Speaker 1:

100 friends. Uh-huh.

Speaker 10:

Well, thanks. Yeah. Took me a while.

Speaker 13:

I’m sorry. I drive, and I couldn’t see who was talking.

Speaker 10:

Okay. It says Jamie anyway.

Speaker 13:

Well, I love her even more.

Speaker 10:

My better half.

Speaker 13:

Yeah. Thank goodness for that.

Speaker 2:

Yes. Wow.

Speaker 10:

Yeah. So, I mean, that that’s that’s illegal in so many different ways. And crossing state lines and, mail fraud, I mean, that’s out and out racketeering. Right, Brad?

Speaker 1:

Yeah. It’s it’s it’s bad. And the thing is it’s like

Speaker 13:

oh. It’s only racketeering if they pursue it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. It’s Well,

Speaker 13:

meaning, like, I mean, in the, yeah, the DOJ.

Speaker 10:

Racketeering, but it’s only It is. Result in conviction if they presume it pursue it.

Speaker 13:

Right. So if you’re not convicted, it never happened. We’ll say, I can’t wait. I I’m I’m trying to remain the forever optimist. I

Speaker 10:

I don’t know. I’ve been I I enlisted myself with the, protect the vote campaign, and, I haven’t seen anything happen with it yet, but we’ll see. So it remains it remains an ongoing endeavor.